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i have my stuff i'd love to ask you guys

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and then just hop in whatever i don't

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know like i've never done one of these

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crossover things

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i just i thought it'd be a cool idea you

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know

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we haven't either joe where are you at

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bro what are you doing

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what what are you doing

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bro

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god damn it

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we us guys make me wish that i didn't

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sometimes

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um now he's he's helpful he's there

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when the tires blow you know there you

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go

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okay so let's do our intro joe oh yeah

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i'm looking at the ground

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i'm not i've got a feather okay

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so you understand he's a fluffer

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terrible i'll edit that out i promise

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yes please

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um but you have to show ryan your vagina

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he hasn't i don't know what vagina

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here we go uh

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all right everybody welcome finally

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sprague yeah that is correct yes

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whenever someone uh uh calls me and says

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that i immediately

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hang up on them because i know it's a uh

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a spam call it's not

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yeah because if they're like sprague

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you're like excuse me

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scratch no honestly

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i don't give a [\h__\h] look dude

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you look like you're 12. i just wanted

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to say that really quickly

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and i mean that in a great way like how

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old are you by the way

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okay i'll i'll play this game i guess

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that's extremely flattering brother

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um i'm in my latter half of the 30s i'll

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leave it at that

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so are we nice nice that's again that's

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why we're doing this today i knew you

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guys were like my soul brothers

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and myself yes

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joe you can buy them faster code.com

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they're only like 20 bucks

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i can't to be frank i cannot believe how

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not expensive these are

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i know they're so awesome yeah yeah yeah

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i know

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yeah they're here with ryan oh oh

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sorry that was gonna say these are

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definitely the sexiest ufo

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out there right they're almost like

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lingerie yeah

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yeah they're very silky and nice not

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that i don't know

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so we're here with ryan and uh we're

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gonna talk about all things ufos

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this guy is amazing you might know him

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from mysteries decoded on the cw

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is that correct that is right yeah

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are you going to see w with the sec and

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the opp you know

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yeah you know me oh cool

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all right so um there we go that was our

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okay cool awesome all right um

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i am here with the ufo bros and today

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we're just gonna have fun

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like this is not gonna be the the super

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list of questions answer goodbye we're

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gonna have a good time because if

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there's something i love about you guys

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is that you take this topic of ufos

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seriously but

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not too seriously and i think that's

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what's lacking in this field so

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so much so we're gonna have fun we're

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gonna get a little crazy

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we're gonna look at some interesting

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stuff that you guys are in possession of

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that the world has not really seen yet

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and i'm so excited

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for that i'm i just want to get to that

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but before we do that

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i want to ask you guys i mean this is

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kind of about all of us coming together

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figuring out like you know how we got

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origin story for the ufo bros how did

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you guys get interested in ufos how did

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you come up with this

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idea of the ufo bros yeah let my

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audience know what you guys are all

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sure well it first started

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um coming out of the same person uh that

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was where we met

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and actually i'll tell you we say this

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story over and over again we've told it

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um alien autopsy none topsy

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1999. yep yep

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okay so you know here we are our normal

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teenage selves and we come across this

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video they just hey it's my parrot we

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come across this video and

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it's amazing you know here's this alien

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on a table they're cutting it open

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they're cataloging its organs and it

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to what's potentially out there

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that really sparked it was our

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older cousin gave us a book it was just

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and it was actually a beautifully down

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book i wish i still had it

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and in it was everything loch ness

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baghdad batteries uh anything that's

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paranormal strange you know that stuff

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we've just been following it ever since

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bob lazar also was a huge revelation

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will you shut that damn bird up

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shut up come here there is a parrot in

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the room for those watching and

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oh my gosh love there she is there she

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she she's gorgeous man she loves

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uh facetiming thank you so much what's

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okay okay got it yeah

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um so bubbles are right

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yeah whoa i know you know because you

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guys covered it too

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right on your special on your tv show

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wasn't you

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regular your second season aren't you

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yeah we're going into our second season

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um you know i'm not like the main host

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but i come on anytime there's ufo stuff

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which is awesome jennifer marshall our

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prime investigator she's dude she is

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uh skeptical believer which i think is

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very important

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like she wants the facts she wants the

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truth she doesn't give a [\h__\h] if aliens

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you know crashed in roswell she wants to

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go where the

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where the evidence leads her so um yeah

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when you know we did roswell we did area

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and of course that had so much to do

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with bob lazar which uh

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which is one of my questions for you

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guys we'll get to later on but um

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yeah no i mean it just kind of spurred

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and then in 2016 we had some life events

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that brought us together as adults in a

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different way and

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and uh it was the most beautiful time of

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i mean like if you're out there at the

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right time it can be

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gorgeous you know just gotta be careful

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when you're driving at night because it

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i'm just you know this yeah yeah yeah

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yeah the pictures as a little alien with

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aurora texas and then we went to

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needles and then we went to area 54 i

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spent so much time going there and now i

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think is really what we do

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because some people you know they

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research and we need it

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some people uh it's a different thing to

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actually go and explore it

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and find the roswell crash site and find

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that monument out there in the middle of

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a field it's like a needle in a haystack

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finding that and then finding what the

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hell is it area 51 and i think we moon

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in our special by the way did you yeah

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as being national television stars so

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tell us about the special on

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travel channel uh joe what did you think

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about it brother um

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because i know emma you're kind of

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the big believer right you you're he's

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the talker and you're the you're the guy

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yeah give it to me like how did the

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oh my god so the special um we me and

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and surprising it's awesome

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how about you emmett like what was it

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like getting contacted

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by a tv network and being like we want

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and look at the ufo topic i'm still like

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in awe that it happened to me like it

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was something i never really

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saw coming um but man yeah like when you

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guys have a tv network behind you

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you're the resources are amazing so yeah

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what do you think well first of all i

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i know i bet i imagine you feel this way

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the whole time i just kept thinking i'm

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really not supposed to be

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here like i'm so lucky to be here

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to be a part like you know you mind

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yourself out of every minute you're like

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i'm not supposed to be here but oh my

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gosh with the resources of travel

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and the showrunners and all the people

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that really are the stars as far as i'm

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concerned because

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joe and i you know we talk and we do we

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do but these people

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they assembled that in less than two

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i don't know how they did it they were

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literally editing while we were

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going to different um shoots and stuff

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and interviews and that sort of thing

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but it was great to be able to get in

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vault with people um that are

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making more waves in this

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topic bringing in bob lazar jeremy

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who has done a phenomenal job of

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covering this topic and

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in ways it's really connecting with

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people and that was kind of our whole

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the normal people think

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so going to area 51 was the perfect

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opportunity you know we interviewed some

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great people

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we interviewed the guy that wanted to

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fornicate with the alien

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um uh we interviewed the guy from boston

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that was pissed off that all of the

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you know secrets are covered up and

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that's so cool because that's on our

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level you know we talk we just talk to

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people about it and that's kind of

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always

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been our approach and i think that that

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just lined up well with area 51 we were

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just in the right place the right time

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for it

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but it was a blast i mean uh

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you know getting to be in the rv meeting

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rick doty

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hanging out with jeremy you know in such

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an official capacity he's a tv star you

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know

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uh it was great man it was just such a

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huge

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moment to just absorb everything about

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our little

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world of ufos in our community and just

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be in it you know what i mean

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absolutely yeah i need to be paid for it

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you're like

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yeah what like that's your job it's

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insane wait i'm getting money for this

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what i thought was really cool too is

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like like you mentioned it's um you guys

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came right at the peak of interest

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both in area 51 and ufos i mean look at

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all this stuff we have with um

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you know the the pentagon ufo program

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and i know on our show we looked at

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these

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stunning what i think are stunning

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similarities between

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uh what bob lazar was saying back in the

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80s of how these

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craft worked you know they they weren't

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like you know the saucer

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kind of floating and hovering like we

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see in the 50s movies

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you know it was yeah craft belly up

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and then like gets pulled instead of

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push out the back

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yeah yeah [\h__\h] so lazar was saying

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this [\h__\h] back in the 80s

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and then jennifer and i are looking at

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the current videos

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you know the tic tac the gimbal the go

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fast uh

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navy videos and you look at one of those

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i believe it was the

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the gimbal video yeah and what did

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what did that craft do right at the end

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of the video that we see

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exactly brother and the guy even says it

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rotated

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and that gave me chills i think when i

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when i made that connection in our show

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and i can't pretend to be the first

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like jeremy's been saying it for a long

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time other people noticed they're like

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huh

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well lazar said back then is kind of

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true now so

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what do you guys think does that lend

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credence to his story and uh

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i guess the overall question what do you

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guys think do you believe

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bob i'd love to get your your both of

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your opinions on it

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i've got mine for damn sure i believe

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bob what about you joe

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yeah i believe bob i definitely believe

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bob 100

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yeah i think the thing with bob lazar

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that some people tend to focus on are

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some of his little quirky

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sort of side expeditions and side

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businesses that he's had

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but to be honest with you if i was to

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bring somebody into an

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extremely super secretive black project

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i would look for somebody who is easily

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discredited

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discreditable is that a word

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discreditable it is today

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and he's also got he's also you know a

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physicist and he thinks outside the box

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and that's the kind of person i think

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you'd want to look at in exotic

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technology you wouldn't want to bring

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the guy necessarily

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you know that's writing the papers and

383
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he's the book smart guy and

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because i think there's one thing that

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bob was able to do his

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technical application actually build the

387
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things and touch them

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that's he was a hands-on guy right i

389
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don't i don't say anything but you gotta

390
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drizzle on your drip of your

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chin there yum

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what are you drinking man what is that

393
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that looks so good

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cold brew with light sweet cream and

395
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some pumpkin phone no topping

396
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oh fancy you fancy mother effer

397
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and of course it has to be rainbow

398
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parrot i mean like can i get a

399
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more inconspicuous bird i don't know

400
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i don't know i love her she's my tv bird

401
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i got her after storming area 51.

402
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oh that's awesome what what a like good

403
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permanent souvenir right

404
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to remember right yeah um i love her

405
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well he's my friend

406
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um i guess yeah i i'm with you guys like

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i i must admit i

408
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i here's here's my sort of passive

409
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answer and i get [\h__\h] for saying this a

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lot by the ufo community

411
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but i've been vocal about my thoughts on

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bob lazar uh

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ever since i met him i think in 2000

414
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it was like 2011 or 2012 he was speaking

415
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at the international ufo congress

416
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and he hadn't really come forward for a

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really long time

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and the only thing that really brought

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him out to talk about it was um

420
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george knapp you know the guy who broke

421
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was our story originally

422
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and we got him up on the stage and had

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him do like a q a

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and go through everything and uh i i was

425
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backstage and um i

426
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uh i got to mic and put the microphone

427
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on him so i'm like

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what does he smell like oh he smells he

429
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smells like

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science if you've ever

431
00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:38,079
it's got a little pungent sourness to it

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no no

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yeah

434
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no he he seems like the kind of guy who

435
00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:45,279
wears old spice to me

436
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so yeah i think i smoked a little bit of

437
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like um

438
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the fuji uh scented one or something

439
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,759
like that

440
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but um oh no man i mean putting the mic

441
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on him getting to talk to him for a few

442
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minutes

443
00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:57,920
like he just seems like such a

444
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down-to-earth uh

445
00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:03,040
genuine dude and um here's where i land

446
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:03,680
on it all

447
00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:06,720
i firmly believe bob lazar did what he

448
00:17:11,189 --> 00:17:07,760
said he did

449
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:11,199
worked where he said he worked and uh

450
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,160
saw what he says he saw but what that is

451
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:15,919
is an entirely different story

452
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i mean this could have been part of some

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big

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00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:22,160
disinformation campaign which is part of

455
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:24,400
another individual who you guys spoke to

456
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:25,919
that i want to talk to you about maybe

457
00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:26,720
in a little bit

458
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but um yeah

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00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:32,720
yeah yeah that might be him yeah um i

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00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:33,600
believe bob

461
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:37,679
i'm with you guys uh i'm skeptical of

462
00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:40,400
uh some parts of his story but look no

463
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,720
one

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00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,559
do i believe in everything no did he

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have an advanced degree

466
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,320
probably not uh anybody who's ever like

467
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put in a job on a resume might have been

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like

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i was the you know the top executive

470
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but you're you know you just pump it up

471
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a little bit who hasn't done that

472
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let's be honest right and frankly some

473
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people can carry the knowledge and

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application

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to be at a phd level just not have the

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degree so

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i mean you know just whatever the words

478
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i just put the words out that people

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determine what they think it's just the

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words

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terrific my audience

482
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my audience is gonna love this part for

483
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sure

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you know or what do we got something

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going on in the united states in a

486
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couple weeks we won't go there but um

487
00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:45,440
again yeah what is happening what is

488
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happening um

489
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but yeah i kind of hogged the first

490
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couple questions there i don't know if

491
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you guys wanted to

492
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take the lead or um i've got plenty for

493
00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:54,320
you but yeah

494
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there's anything you need me to spill

495
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the beans on i'm here too

496
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:01,679
so joe had a question when do you

497
00:19:10,789 --> 00:19:05,840
think you'll reach puberty um what

498
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:10,799
i eat there's my neck see

499
00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:14,240
hey look look guys i can't i can't grow

500
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:16,960
the beautiful facial hair you have but

501
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:17,600
dude this

502
00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,120
is two months of growth this is too much

503
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:22,799
is it really you look great dude you

504
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,039
look like a guy that could be on tv

505
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you know what i mean he's talking to him

506
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or me

507
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you you should be on tv oh he is

508
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thank you you have the face for it man

509
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:36,000
i was just telling my guy like look at

510
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this guy he's so young i wonder how old

511
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he is actually i'm sorry

512
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bro you're such a dick no

513
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:43,679
i'm taking it as a compliment i'm taking

514
00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:45,440
it as a yeah just take it

515
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some of us some of us go through stages

516
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of life later than others but um

517
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i'll get them i'll probably

518
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:54,559
solve the ufo mystery before i go

519
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:56,480
through puberty but um that's a whole

520
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:57,520
other

521
00:20:01,990 --> 00:19:58,799
stupidity you're gonna be you're gonna

522
00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,000
be like 80 and you're going to look

523
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:05,120
that's that's true um oh

524
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,520
here's one another question oh yeah i'm

525
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:08,960
gonna actually ask you a question

526
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,600
oh god please go go go out of any of

527
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:13,039
your investigations

528
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:16,720
and research is there one

529
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:18,799
piece of information maybe that you

530
00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:20,159
could share with us possibly you haven't

531
00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:21,440
shared with somebody else or you haven't

532
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:22,400
talked about

533
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:25,440
maybe even a developing theory or

534
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:28,480
um i just want to know i just i don't

535
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:29,440
know

536
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:35,679
for me it goes back to uh the pilot

537
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:36,720
episode of the

538
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:39,120
mysteries decoded television show where

539
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:41,280
uh jennifer and riley went to

540
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,480
roswell like you guys did and um look

541
00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:45,840
when i got approached for this

542
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:47,760
television show and they said we want to

543
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:49,760
do a ufo show i'm like that's so cool

544
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,000
yeah if it ever happens let me know but

545
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:53,600
you know that game like all these

546
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,120
producers and people

547
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,640
say they want to make these shows and

548
00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:58,240
then it never happens and you're waiting

549
00:21:02,549 --> 00:20:59,120
oh my god

550
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:02,559
yeah but um hair fall

551
00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:05,280
yeah yeah yeah and i'm just like waiting

552
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:06,559
by the phone

553
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:10,640
and uh making lattes at my coffee shop

554
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:13,919
and like miserable with my life

555
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,159
and then i get the phone call and i'm

556
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,000
like wow they actually made it happen

557
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,080
they they got a pilot like a

558
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:22,480
a one-hour special and then they said

559
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they wanted to do roswell and right

560
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:25,360
there man like

561
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:27,919
i was roswell's roswell it's awesome but

562
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:30,080
i also was like ah really

563
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,679
like this we're going we're doing the

564
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:33,840
case that everyone's covered

565
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:36,080
everyone knows every play-by-play of the

566
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:36,960
events

567
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:39,120
um so i told them i'm like yeah

568
00:21:41,350 --> 00:21:40,880
absolutely but we have to do something

569
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:41,360
new

570
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:42,880
and we have to do something special and

571
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,360
bring new evidence or like

572
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:48,000
theories to the table and uh i think we

573
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:49,600
did i thought we came up with some

574
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,760
really cool stuff whether it was the

575
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:53,919
the raimi memo that we looked at you

576
00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:55,840
know the guy who um

577
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:57,200
had that memo during the press

578
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,720
conference and what it might have said

579
00:22:03,110 --> 00:21:59,840
have you gotten

580
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:03,120
any further on that um we're still

581
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:06,080
analyzing the memo it's so hard man like

582
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:06,480
we've

583
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:08,320
you know what let me tell you a secret

584
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:09,600
oh secret

585
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,679
okay play with i've been playing around

586
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:12,640
with it on

587
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:15,840
facetune because you can

588
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:19,280
take the lines and bend them face tune

589
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,480
you know you can do things

590
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:23,120
right but you can i if you manipulate

591
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:24,320
the lines out you can

592
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,440
i was starting to kind of get some like

593
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:29,760
you know and what i'm getting i don't

594
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:31,120
want to solve that [\h__\h]

595
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:33,200
i want you know you're like let's solve

596
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:34,640
some [\h__\h] i think we gotta

597
00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,520
you know i want to know what you know

598
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:37,679
about that you know yeah i mean why

599
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:38,000
can't

600
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:39,440
you know have you like who have you

601
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,520
taken it too i want to know

602
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,840
yeah i mean in the show we checked it

603
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,360
damn bird up

604
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:47,200
sorry she's got a lot to say about

605
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:48,640
roswell man we all do

606
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:52,400
um we we had ben hansen look at it

607
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:55,440
you know former fbi agent and um

608
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,200
you know analyst and paranormal

609
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,960
researcher and i thought he did an

610
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:01,120
incredible job but we also

611
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,640
have we're having it looked at by

612
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,480
several other independent

613
00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:07,679
photo analysis and um and stuff like

614
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,159
that

615
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:10,720
but not even the memo for me we looked

616
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:13,280
at a metal that was found out there

617
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:16,559
um we had it tested at an aerospace lab

618
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,440
um and that came from frank kimbler this

619
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,520
dude who lives out in roswell

620
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,520
and he's been digging out in the desert

621
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:24,960
for like years now

622
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:27,039
looking for any evidence of a craft that

623
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:28,960
crashed and you know

624
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,520
being the earth scientist and geologist

625
00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:32,960
geologist he is

626
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:35,600
he made [\h__\h] happen and he found what he

627
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,720
believes

628
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,640
that you've been to that i've been to

629
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,400
which was the actual

630
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,559
impact site where the the craft

631
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:43,919
supposedly came down

632
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,159
and he found metals out there and we

633
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:47,679
were like holy [\h__\h] okay

634
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:51,360
he also found buttons um military grade

635
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,559
buttons that would be on um army outfits

636
00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:56,960
yeah because you need tons of army

637
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:58,880
people to pick up a weather balloon of

638
00:24:03,990 --> 00:23:59,600
course

639
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,000
of officers out there on hands and knees

640
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:06,799
picking up give me a [\h__\h] break it's

641
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:07,840
very important

642
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,080
yeah yeah so i mean the fact that he

643
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:11,840
found medals and the fact that he found

644
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:12,960
military buttons

645
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,600
from the 40s you know that says a lot

646
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,360
something crashed there in the 40s

647
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:19,679
out there because it was so remote no

648
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,039
trash nothing out there

649
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:22,960
yet he found these metals so we had him

650
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:25,760
tested at an aerospace lab in california

651
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:28,400
and um you know we go about it in the

652
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:29,120
special

653
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,480
of like yeah it was definitely the

654
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:35,279
metal was not alien in the sense that it

655
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:36,159
was

656
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,279
extraterrestrial um but but

657
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:41,760
but we were really excited to find out

658
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:43,919
that the alloys within the metal

659
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,400
the composition makeup everything about

660
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:48,960
this metal that he found out there

661
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:53,120
was what we're using today in 2020

662
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,960
and it's being used on our most

663
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,320
sophisticated

664
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:59,120
aerospace shuttles and missions and

665
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,159
stuff like that

666
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:03,120
today by elon musk by by people like

667
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,679
that

668
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:06,400
on their spacecraft so what the hell so

669
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,200
familiar

670
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,200
what's that metal doing out in the

671
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,279
desert in the 40s i i can't tell how big

672
00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:12,720
is the metal piece

673
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:14,799
he's got a bunch of them i mean the one

674
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:15,919
what's the biggest

675
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:19,600
um the biggest one i saw was probably

676
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,240
about and i know this doesn't give much

677
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:24,159
much context maybe like

678
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:28,159
three inches long an inch wide so

679
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:29,919
joe you know about three inches right

680
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,310
i know you have a pretty good eyeball on

681
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,600
how about you're out of control

682
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:42,159
i hope you don't mind me jumping in on

683
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,200
the metal

684
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,600
yeah we found a piece of metal we're

685
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,120
gonna talk about that right because

686
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,919
yes we are yeah the things that you just

687
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:51,600
said

688
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,919
apply to this piece of metal because we

689
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,039
had it tested

690
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:57,279
ooh good tease brother yeah i'm i will

691
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:58,799
definitely get there um

692
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:02,559
i'm gonna end on my roswell banter or

693
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,159
blabbering here with um

694
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,400
it wasn't it wasn't the physical

695
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:08,159
evidence to be honest that really

696
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,520
captured my attention

697
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,400
in the research it was actually um

698
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,159
somebody who came up to us

699
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,799
while we were you know cameras were off

700
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:18,240
we were getting ready to go to our next

701
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,360
location

702
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,679
and this local in roswell came up and of

703
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,200
course he's like what are you guys doing

704
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:26,000
what are you filming and right like you

705
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,720
know

706
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,480
something about roswell he's like is it

707
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:30,480
the crash we're like yeah he's like of

708
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:31,200
course

709
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,400
all that happens in roswell that's what

710
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:38,320
they're known for

711
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,000
is like two miles long right yeah

712
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,080
yeah the craft didn't even have the

713
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,240
decency to actually crash in roswell

714
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:47,919
that's just where that's

715
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:04,230
oh yeah so this dude comes up to us and

716
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,600
he's like

717
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:08,240
so you know what really happened right

718
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,520
and we're like

719
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:10,799
i mean that's what we're trying to

720
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:13,600
figure out um you know we've

721
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,200
heard everything from weather balloons

722
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,360
to project mogul to um

723
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:19,120
you know an alien spacecraft and he was

724
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:20,640
like nah

725
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:23,120
nope and we're like what do you mean and

726
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,679
he's like

727
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:26,559
look this is a small town everyone knows

728
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,279
someone

729
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:29,120
that was involved with this crash

730
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:30,559
everybody in the town

731
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:33,200
either related to or knew of somebody

732
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,000
and he said

733
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,120
his grandfather was working at

734
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:40,000
the roswell army airfield at the time

735
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:41,919
and um

736
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:46,000
he told this guy that told us

737
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:47,279
and you guys might have heard this

738
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:49,840
theory already um but it's one that i

739
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,240
find

740
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:53,600
really interesting uh

741
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:56,559
close very close yeah i know where

742
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:57,600
you're going

743
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,360
so yeah he said his his way of putting

744
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:02,799
it is

745
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:06,320
there were bodies there was a craft

746
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:10,000
it was human and it was children

747
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:13,520
and oh russian children either russian

748
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:16,640
german japanese somebody or american

749
00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,600
that's what he told us he told us that

750
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:20,720
these were

751
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,919
either mentally disabled or physically

752
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:25,679
disabled children

753
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,080
who the government snatched up these

754
00:28:32,950 --> 00:28:30,480
kids were left at you know orphanages

755
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,960
um they were cast outs they nobody

756
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,399
wanted these children

757
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:36,000
and they said nobody will miss that's

758
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:37,679
like joe

759
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,039
could have put joe on that ouch

760
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,640
oh man and there you go he says that

761
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:46,640
they put these kids up in like a high

762
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,000
altitude balloon

763
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:50,880
or craft because you got to think 40s

764
00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:52,960
like this is the early early days of

765
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,679
looking at

766
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:56,080
space exploration and breaking the

767
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,760
chains of gravity and getting up there

768
00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:59,120
into the atmosphere

769
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,880
and they wanted to see how long these

770
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:02,240
kids could survive

771
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:10,789
all right kids get ready to go up you're

772
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:16,870
isn't that so [\h__\h] up and like that's

773
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,640
what this guy told me and he said why do

774
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,159
you think there was a cover-up

775
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,880
like we were kidnapping kids putting

776
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,399
them up there and they were dying at

777
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,799
alarming rates

778
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,000
never heard of that so

779
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:32,480
that blew my mind i heard about sorry i

780
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,200
just detected

781
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,720
i heard about like russians or something

782
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:37,360
that that they like they sent

783
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:40,080
you know like kids with pejor or

784
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:41,120
whatever or something something like

785
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,080
that but not exactly

786
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,120
yours yeah georgia

787
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,840
georgia yeah i mean and again like i

788
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,799
said it's not the

789
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,399
it's not the first time this theory has

790
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:52,159
been brought forward but

791
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:53,840
the fact that this guy came up to me and

792
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:56,080
told this and other residents in roswell

793
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:56,880
said this

794
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,000
and researchers like nick redfern um

795
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:02,240
have written about this in the past he

796
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:03,679
believes it could have been

797
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:07,360
japanese uh who sent something over to

798
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:08,480
spy on us

799
00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:11,760
and it crashed uh look the possibilities

800
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:12,640
are endless and

801
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:15,279
aliens are still on the table too but

802
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:17,039
that for me kind of opened the doors

803
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:17,919
wide open

804
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,760
and we didn't cover it in the tv show

805
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:21,760
because it was really dark

806
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:24,799
and depressing and um they just didn't

807
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,600
want to cover that

808
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,760
yeah i would you know they don't want to

809
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,520
cover it yet but but um

810
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,960
i will say you know we're not done

811
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:32,799
looking at roswell on the tv show i'll

812
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,520
tell you this

813
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,919
if that's what happened that's like a

814
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,360
that's a that's like a

815
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,799
like a worse story than aliens

816
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:40,559
scratching franklin exactly that's what

817
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:41,200
i said

818
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,039
worse not worse or like more like

819
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:47,200
explosive or whatever i don't know

820
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,320
especially nowadays everybody's like

821
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:50,080
yeah there's aliens or whatever but

822
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:51,760
yeah i think that's interesting i love

823
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,399
roswell i love the hieroglyphics i love

824
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,480
when people are describing the materials

825
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,960
and i just like so you're like the

826
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,880
roswell guy you're a roswell guy well

827
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:01,919
there you go too man

828
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,679
hieroglyphics you bring up a really good

829
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:05,039
point like

830
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:07,519
back in the 40s and stuff like we p

831
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:08,640
right

832
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:11,760
people didn't know how to look at

833
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,240
russian writing or japanese writing and

834
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,840
whatnot at the time you know just

835
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:18,000
everyday people in roswell new mexico i

836
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:18,559
doubt it

837
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,919
maybe the military yeah exactly so like

838
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:23,760
if this rancher is the first to have

839
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:24,640
found this

840
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,080
this stuff and um and whatnot i can't

841
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,840
say he didn't know japanese

842
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:32,559
or russian or anything but maybe it's

843
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:35,039
possible he mistook another language

844
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,320
um written on these pieces or whatnot

845
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,799
and thought it was hieroglyphics as he

846
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:41,919
stated or um

847
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,039
that jesse marcel senior showed his son

848
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:47,200
that it was hieroglyphics who knows who

849
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:48,720
knows but one more thing on roswell the

850
00:31:51,669 --> 00:31:49,360
hieroglyphics

851
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,679
you're making me think about did you

852
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,600
hear about a toy factory

853
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,399
creating like scotch tape with patterns

854
00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:57,919
on it did you hear about this

855
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,159
oh yeah yeah that's definitely yeah i've

856
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:02,000
seen that special i've hunted for that

857
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,559
tape

858
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,240
to try i've looked everywhere to see if

859
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:06,480
i could find just even like

860
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:09,919
if it you know like has the diamonds and

861
00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:11,840
the clovers and the heart

862
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,240
that's supposed to be what was on it but

863
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:16,240
surprisingly that's a whole episode bro

864
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,559
i mean you know that's a whole series

865
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,919
yeah i mean

866
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:21,360
you guys know you too you've

867
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:22,799
investigated and every time you think

868
00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:23,600
you have an answer

869
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,840
like something creeps in and makes you

870
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:27,360
go a different route so

871
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,279
yeah but that's what ufo investigation

872
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:31,200
is and you guys know that more than

873
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,080
anyone you've done

874
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,640
more boots on the ground than i have

875
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,320
personally like i am one of these

876
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:38,880
keyboard armchair researchers most of

877
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:39,519
the time

878
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:42,399
but um i i'd like to give you guys i'd

879
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:42,799
like to

880
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,080
get your guys thoughts on um this case

881
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:48,480
that not a lot of people know about

882
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:52,320
and i i hope you can share some of it

883
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:54,000
with us i know you're under

884
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,919
ndas for certain things and this and

885
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:57,600
that but um

886
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,640
needles california this is a case that

887
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:03,120
caught my attention and uh i've been

888
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,720
looking into a lot but

889
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,399
i want to get it from you guys this is

890
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,240
probably one of the most recent

891
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:10,559
quote unquote ufo crashes in history

892
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,360
right now

893
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:14,080
so tell us a little about needles um

894
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:15,919
what you've heard about the case

895
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:18,080
and about uh going there you guys

896
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:19,440
actually went out to

897
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:21,279
to look for stuff so um is there

898
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:22,640
anything you could share with my

899
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:23,360
audience

900
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:26,000
about that you know to be honest with

901
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,399
you

902
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,559
nobody has investigated needles

903
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,080
california

904
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,640
in a long time and so joe and i just to

905
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:33,760
give you some background

906
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:37,039
it was may 14th 2008. it's not that long

907
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:37,519
ago

908
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:42,080
12 years um about 2 a.m the residence of

909
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:43,760
needles california which by the way is

910
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,799
like in the

911
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:47,200
taint of california it's like where

912
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,600
california and nevada and like there's

913
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:50,799
like a little

914
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:53,679
uh the residents saw this turquoise

915
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,240
lights

916
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:56,799
reach across the sky right and then it

917
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:57,600
came down

918
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,519
crashed into the banks of the colorado

919
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:00,720
river this

920
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:03,519
was so bright it lit up the entire town

921
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,480
of needles

922
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,000
and they were calling the local radio

923
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,079
station that night to report it and talk

924
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,320
talk about it tell people about it

925
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:12,480
a man named frank costigan who has since

926
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,440
passed

927
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,720
was one of the people that took those

928
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,200
calls so what we did

929
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:19,040
is we started there we started with

930
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:20,240
frank costigan

931
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:23,359
who uh gave us so much information about

932
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:24,560
what happened

933
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,919
in 2008. so that night after it crashed

934
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:29,599
into the banks of the colorado river

935
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:30,240
this

936
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,599
it was definitely a vehicle of some sort

937
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,440
primarily because a squadron of

938
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:41,599
helicopters were following it

939
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:45,119
as it crashed and a sky crane

940
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:47,280
came in which is like a big helicopter

941
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:49,520
that can lift really heavy stuff

942
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:53,119
comes in picks up the object

943
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:56,639
right with the sky and they fly off

944
00:35:04,230 --> 00:34:59,920
that morning the town is overrun with

945
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,240
seemingly scientists uh possible

946
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:06,880
uh people affiliated with the army or

947
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,310
men in black they asked lots of

948
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:13,680
questions

949
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,520
there was literally lines of cars

950
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,520
coming into needles california it was

951
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:21,680
unlike anything they had ever seen

952
00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:24,400
um because it's really a quiet place

953
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,510
and whatever they do there

954
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:33,359
by chinese food we mean it's really bad

955
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:35,119
not that there's chinese people there

956
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,119
i just wanted to point that out yeah bad

957
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,079
chinese food okay

958
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,839
is there bad chinese food let's be

959
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,680
honest

960
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:46,160
yes because when it's 115 degrees you're

961
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:47,359
eating

962
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,040
some very hot powdered pork

963
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,640
i didn't think about that that just made

964
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:54,320
my stomach turn yeah

965
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:57,599
you're like awful at msg and then you're

966
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:58,800
like

967
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,119
the water's not working you guys don't

968
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:03,520
carry gatorade

969
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:07,200
oh my god i'm thinking of um anchorman

970
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,030
yes so anyway

971
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,640
just found memories joe and i you know

972
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:16,240
we pop in here and there

973
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,839
yeah but uh so how mysterious

974
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,320
um there was a middle there was a mental

975
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,000
there was a man named bob on the river

976
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,400
okay who was a man that was boating that

977
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:28,560
night wait he said his name is bob

978
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:31,920
bob yeah no what do you know his last

979
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:32,720
name was

980
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,589
oh no i have a feeling this is an inside

981
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:44,150
no you know bob up and bob up and down

982
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,040
in the water

983
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,440
up and down oh my god that went right

984
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:48,960
over my head

985
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:51,520
like in the water not in a lab oh my

986
00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:52,079
gosh

987
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:54,160
but he was fishing on the banks of

988
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,760
colorado river

989
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,800
okay go ahead joe and

990
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,720
take him he saw it flying he saw it

991
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,640
flying okay

992
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,320
so we went we interviewed frank costa

993
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,640
again he gave us uh contact information

994
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:08,880
with the local geologists

995
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,880
and land surveyors so we could get an

996
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,720
idea of approximately where this thing

997
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:14,800
crashed the bank's colorado river

998
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:18,000
and we went out there with our metal

999
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:20,400
detectors and our em detectors

1000
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,920
and we found something man and really

1001
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,720
not ever really shown this especially to

1002
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:27,680
somebody

1003
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:30,560
where you're at on tv yeah yeah so many

1004
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,200
followers

1005
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,440
showing people here and there but we

1006
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,359
actually dug down a couple feet and

1007
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,960
pulled this incredible piece of metal

1008
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,680
out of the ground

1009
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,079
and it's really a really pretty big

1010
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,839
piece of metal you want to see it

1011
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:43,920
ah yeah if you guys are willing to share

1012
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,470
i don't care what you're gonna do okay

1013
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:53,040
okay yeah let's see if because william

1014
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,160
this is a uh

1015
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:56,000
somewhere in the sky's ufo bros

1016
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:57,440
exclusive i would love

1017
00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:00,960
to see astronaut john kelly saw this

1018
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:02,839
piece of metal

1019
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:05,760
okay and he says because of

1020
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,720
the tinting on it he he thinks this is

1021
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:09,760
very much

1022
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,800
something that has been to space so

1023
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,640
um i'm gonna show you the whole piece in

1024
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:16,480
its entirety

1025
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:20,079
oh wow that's huge okay yeah it's huge

1026
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,680
but when you when you look at it it's

1027
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,680
just like okay it's a piece of metal

1028
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:25,599
but upon further inspection you'll start

1029
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:27,280
to notice look these there's these

1030
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:29,680
this weird bubbling that has right in

1031
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:30,880
the middle

1032
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,320
which suggests that something was heated

1033
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,280
extremely quickly faster than able to

1034
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,359
char

1035
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:41,280
the other thing too is you can see the

1036
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:42,800
way that this has come off

1037
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,280
it looks as though it has literally

1038
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:47,760
exploded off something what's so funny

1039
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,800
[Music]

1040
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,359
[Laughter]

1041
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,480
i got glitter everywhere oh no so this

1042
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:01,760
is important we're showing a piece of

1043
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:02,640
the ufo

1044
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,720
and you're yes literally i have kids

1045
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:09,200
okay yeah i'm sorry to hear that uh but

1046
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:10,640
this is if you look at this p

1047
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,240
this side here there's a strange like

1048
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:14,720
yellow tinting to it yeah yeah yeah

1049
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,240
um back side there's some discoloration

1050
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:20,079
it looks like oxidation

1051
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,760
um we have this it hasn't rusted

1052
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:25,760
it has not rusted came right out of the

1053
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:28,240
ground oh wow

1054
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:31,680
yeah we had it analyzed and same thing

1055
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:32,800
you said man

1056
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:36,400
this is aerospace ready

1057
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:40,800
material and uh that it was designed

1058
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:42,560
to withstand a tremendous amount of

1059
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:45,119
pressure what type of metal it is

1060
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:48,160
and so uh it is not

1061
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:51,359
a piece of like you know a license plate

1062
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,880
or a piece of aluminum off a roof or

1063
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,280
something like that this is something

1064
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:59,359
that has been through a traumatic event

1065
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:01,680
okay and this was right in the

1066
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:03,520
coordinates that the needle's crashing

1067
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,119
on the banks of colorado river wow so

1068
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:10,240
that's super thin very strong dude it

1069
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:11,200
looks

1070
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:14,880
identical to our metals i'm not kidding

1071
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:17,280
even the um like you said the the

1072
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:18,400
bubbling

1073
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,920
that we're seeing there where it looks

1074
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:21,599
like it was like

1075
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:24,400
burned or impacted ours had the same

1076
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:24,960
thing

1077
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,520
and this was like a solid steel piece

1078
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:29,040
that you could not bend you could not

1079
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:29,920
break nothing

1080
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:32,640
yet it had those really interesting

1081
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,680
rivets in it and

1082
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:35,599
bubbling like you said like something

1083
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:37,520
very traumatic had happened

1084
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,880
wow it is strikingly similar to our

1085
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,720
medals there's

1086
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,680
something to be said about that what do

1087
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,440
you guys think what do you think it is

1088
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,359
that was buried like four to five feet

1089
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,119
down that was okay

1090
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:52,960
time you say that story it gets a foot

1091
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,119
deeper it was like two feet down

1092
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:57,280
it was like two to four feet deep it was

1093
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:00,480
it was in the core of the earth

1094
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,079
we dug to china yeah

1095
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:06,480
but here's here joe what do you think

1096
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,839
because i think

1097
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,839
that i don't necessarily know that it's

1098
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:11,280
actually terrestrial but i

1099
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:13,280
really do think that whatever crashed in

1100
00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:15,280
needles this could really truly be a

1101
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,240
piece of it

1102
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,640
that's what i just analyzed we analyzed

1103
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,160
his properties we

1104
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:22,160
you know had to take it around it and

1105
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:23,280
from the results it's something that's

1106
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:24,400
been in the space

1107
00:41:28,950 --> 00:41:27,040
the yellowing on it is from radiation

1108
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:28,960
that they say

1109
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:31,520
uh oh wow and that's saying something

1110
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,400
yeah

1111
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:35,200
that's like the radiation this being in

1112
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,319
space

1113
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,960
this creates this sort of yellow tint oh

1114
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,400
yellow coating tint yeah

1115
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,240
we've actually even had skeptics look at

1116
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:44,240
it and they still say

1117
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,880
this is weird and so we can truly say

1118
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:49,119
that this is a strange object off of

1119
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:49,920
something that

1120
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:52,640
suffered a traumatic event and quite

1121
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:54,800
possibly was in space

1122
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:57,200
i really do think that this is possibly

1123
00:42:02,230 --> 00:41:58,640
a piece of what crashed

1124
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,240
because it sounds to me like potentially

1125
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,640
if needles wasn't extraterrestrial that

1126
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,000
it definitely was

1127
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,119
an advanced um potentially government

1128
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,359
experimental craft of some sort

1129
00:42:14,829 --> 00:42:13,280
um which could explain this sort of

1130
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:14,839
launch grade

1131
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:18,000
alloy so how you like them apples

1132
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:19,359
they're ryan do you like our pizza yeah

1133
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,119
right gooey the all i'm gonna say is

1134
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,599
all i'm gonna say is guys your piece is

1135
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:27,760
way bigger than mine

1136
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,040
yeah um you know we had a black piece in

1137
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:33,040
here actually but we

1138
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:36,640
it was a really big big black

1139
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:44,160
um piece oh you knock it off

1140
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,280
i love it you guys you

1141
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:49,200
you catch me off my feet and leave me

1142
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,319
silent so that's

1143
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,400
you that's saying something because i've

1144
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,079
heard everything we try

1145
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,920
you try you should be in you should go

1146
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,440
on a trip with us sometime you actually

1147
00:43:02,950 --> 00:42:59,680
probably might kill us

1148
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:02,960
that'd be the funniest [\h__\h] in the world

1149
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:05,680
poor sound guy in the back of the rv and

1150
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:06,240
and

1151
00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,920
yeah they were just like how do you guys

1152
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:11,839
how are you still talking it's been 12

1153
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:17,030
oh man i don't know it's the passion

1154
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,680
that keeps saying

1155
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:19,280
i was all i was uh yeah it was the

1156
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,720
passion i was all so how long did you

1157
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,160
guys record he's like well like

1158
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,400
about 40 minutes after you guys we left

1159
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,800
we just stopped because

1160
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:28,640
she just kept talking and talking you

1161
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:29,839
just kept going

1162
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,640
ah that is well i think that's about to

1163
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,119
right ryan like it's supposed to be fun

1164
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,160
absolutely i try to remind people

1165
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,480
like yeah this is a serious topic like

1166
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,000
we're talking about possible

1167
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:44,319
kidnapping of kids by the us government

1168
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:45,440
and killing them

1169
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,040
at a a like a ufo crash and also like

1170
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,960
the potential of alien life visiting our

1171
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,160
planet it is

1172
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,880
a big thing but come on like we talk

1173
00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:56,560
about the weirdest [\h__\h] out there and if

1174
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,920
we can't laugh about it

1175
00:44:01,589 --> 00:44:00,560
every now and then you're gonna be

1176
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:01,599
miserable

1177
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,200
know

1178
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:07,920
that that nick pope that was him letting

1179
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,550
that was his having a good time

1180
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:16,480
let's talk about that um you guys he

1181
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:17,599
didn't even really had um

1182
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,839
he didn't get anything that i was doing

1183
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:21,119
i was doing the donald trump

1184
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,480
water bottle drink he was like

1185
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:27,440
what's up what happened look look what

1186
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:30,079
was it like he's a very thoughtful man

1187
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:33,200
yeah oh he actually was a black

1188
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:35,119
and he went along with it perfectly yeah

1189
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,880
he did i was able to really let go

1190
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,680
yeah and by that he means like unbutton

1191
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,599
the top button over here

1192
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:46,480
yeah but no he was great he's awesome he

1193
00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:47,119
was

1194
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,560
definitely a great and i would like to

1195
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,319
come on again awesome

1196
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:53,359
yeah and for those who don't know um uh

1197
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:56,720
nick pope is was the former ufo desk

1198
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,200
worker

1199
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,760
for the mod in england in their ufo

1200
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:01,040
project and uh

1201
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:02,800
you should know that by now to my

1202
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,079
audience but um yeah yeah

1203
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,640
yeah so what did he have to say anything

1204
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:09,920
really compelling that he brought

1205
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,240
forward with you guys

1206
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:15,280
my favorite part of the whole show is

1207
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:18,480
we ask him we say if there is a

1208
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:19,839
revelation

1209
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:23,040
about ufos and extraterrestrials this

1210
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:23,440
month

1211
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:26,480
potentially what would the president say

1212
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,760
to the people

1213
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,960
walk us through that moment and he does

1214
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,880
for a minute well he actually got a

1215
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:34,000
silent we were like

1216
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,599
yeah did it happen bro did it happen

1217
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,760
yeah it's not like wait does this happen

1218
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:41,599
are you doing disclosure now like

1219
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:45,119
is this it yeah he did really well

1220
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:48,240
president will walk out i can't really

1221
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,359
do anything

1222
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,599
but uh that was my favorite part you

1223
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:52,960
know the guy is

1224
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:56,000
deep into what's going on over yeah uh

1225
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,960
he's on top

1226
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,280
tucker carlson i know how much you you

1227
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:01,200
watch tucker crosston all the time dude

1228
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:01,920
i know you

1229
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:05,200
love tucker carlson don't you write

1230
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,040
oh huge huge fan of uh mr carlson hey

1231
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:12,480
look i'm pretty vocal about my political

1232
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,280
leanings and everything um but you know

1233
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,240
i try to keep it out as much as i can

1234
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,880
always all this but you know it's hard

1235
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,560
because this is a political issue

1236
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,720
ufos you know we can also i didn't mean

1237
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,839
to bring politics

1238
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,880
well i did but i didn't

1239
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,480
but hey look if there's anything i could

1240
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:32,720
say about tucker carlson um

1241
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,680
you know besides him as a person uh with

1242
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,160
his principles and values and ethics uh

1243
00:46:41,829 --> 00:46:40,480
he is taking this thing more serious

1244
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:41,839
than any news network

1245
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,319
any news anchor and he's doing a really

1246
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,560
good job at it he's a smart guy

1247
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,160
there's no getting around that tucker

1248
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:49,680
carlson is a very

1249
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:52,480
smart guy um there are there's so much i

1250
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:53,920
don't agree with him on

1251
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,960
in the world but hey if he's going to be

1252
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:58,240
the one to get this thing out to the

1253
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,119
forefront

1254
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:02,160
i am appreciative of that

1255
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:05,280
and i just want it out you know we want

1256
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:05,839
the truth

1257
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:08,079
who does it just put it out just get it

1258
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,280
out and that's how i feel

1259
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,520
being just a political and i was teasing

1260
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:12,560
you a little bit but just being

1261
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,000
apolitical about it

1262
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,319
yeah i don't care if the pope i don't

1263
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,640
care i just i want to know

1264
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,880
so that we can i don't know what are we

1265
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,480
going to do after all this is over

1266
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,160
what are we doing what are the three of

1267
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:25,520
us gonna do we're gonna have to like

1268
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,640
take up like

1269
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,800
basket weaving or something i don't know

1270
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:30,319
underwater basketball

1271
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:33,599
underwater yes got to put that caveat on

1272
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:35,920
um well hey i want to know what you guys

1273
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:38,720
think and while we're on the topic uh

1274
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:42,480
of like disclosure and yeah i guess u.s

1275
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,520
politics we have a major election coming

1276
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:47,760
up in a couple weeks

1277
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:51,359
and you know no matter which way it goes

1278
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,640
um you know trump has kind of given us

1279
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:55,680
his thoughts and

1280
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,119
whatnot on the ufo topic but biden has

1281
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:00,960
said nothing he's never really talked

1282
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:01,440
about it

1283
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:02,960
but do you think with a new

1284
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:05,200
administration uh

1285
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,680
things could change in terms of the ufo

1286
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,720
disclosure

1287
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,960
i mean we if we have a different

1288
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,119
administration full of different people

1289
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:15,839
who may have some interest in this topic

1290
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,400
um

1291
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,240
does it matter does it even matter if

1292
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,000
trump is there or biden is there

1293
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,920
will anything change with the overall

1294
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,240
disclosure of ufos and your guys

1295
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,430
well i'll start chill i know that you

1296
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:30,800
usually start

1297
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:34,640
i think that um

1298
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,119
i think that there that things are so

1299
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:39,280
chaotic right now

1300
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,400
um now would be

1301
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,720
the probably the most likely time that

1302
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,559
something could get out

1303
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,800
um i don't know what would happen if

1304
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:50,240
biden got in like you said he hasn't

1305
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,200
said anything

1306
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,839
but what if he gets in but then he does

1307
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,599
the you know what was the former which

1308
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:56,880
was just kind of keep

1309
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,480
he's pushing it along kind of thing

1310
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,119
um i'm actually surprised trump hasn't

1311
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,119
said anything yet

1312
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:07,040
i mean the guy's like you know i mean

1313
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,800
why wouldn't i i mean says but

1314
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,559
did they tell you why i wouldn't buy

1315
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,000
them you know they're little tiny little

1316
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:13,760
beings and then he'd smell their head

1317
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,240
and

1318
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:15,839
as he sits there with them you know i

1319
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,430
those are some creepy videos man

1320
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:25,910
i don't care who you vote for like them

1321
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:28,480
some creepy videos for sure

1322
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:44,470
alienated one hundred percent of our

1323
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,430
look it's all about fun and especially

1324
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,599
right now man like

1325
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:55,680
i think they're all crazy okay all of

1326
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:56,640
them all of the

1327
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:59,760
every single politician line they're all

1328
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:02,720
they're all is equally not truthful so

1329
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:03,760
let's just get that out

1330
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,359
so you can do whatever you want to do

1331
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:06,880
with whoever you want but

1332
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,000
like you said let's get the info out

1333
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:13,119
hopefully we still get it let's get it

1334
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,109
that's called pop tourette's yes

1335
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,950
is that a clip yeah yeah well actually

1336
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,079
um

1337
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,680
uh this this could be you can edit this

1338
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:29,119
out right here if you want to

1339
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:32,880
uh i have a movement disorder that they

1340
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:35,520
finally diagnosed me with

1341
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:38,400
so i constantly move and it's they can't

1342
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,200
figure it out

1343
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,359
it's called korea it's like part of like

1344
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,040
honey tim's parkinson's

1345
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,440
leave me alone i'm trying to talk and

1346
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,800
you always ruin every time i try to

1347
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:47,839
[\h__\h] talk

1348
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,150
that's what's happening okay

1349
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,800
yeah that's what it is oh man i think

1350
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:02,160
ryan just got canceled

1351
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,200
uh i don't i have i have no idea sorry

1352
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:06,960
i'm trying to respond to that other than

1353
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:10,000
dude i'm sorry and uh oh no it's okay

1354
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,440
i just this is something that i've had

1355
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:13,280
forever so if i'm like moving weird and

1356
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,839
[\h__\h]

1357
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:16,640
that's just it's my thing it's gonna be

1358
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:17,680
great for on camera

1359
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:21,200
it's like a smackdown damn it exactly

1360
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:24,800
exactly nobody cares um well okay

1361
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:28,079
so i want to move on to

1362
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:31,359
in asking you guys and um again if you

1363
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,800
want to throw it back to me whenever i

1364
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,599
don't want to

1365
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,280
steer this ship because this is your

1366
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,040
show too um

1367
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,880
no i love it it's great that's great

1368
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:40,079
we'll see you guys

1369
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,359
the questions we all have something to

1370
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:43,280
say so it's great exactly exactly

1371
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,400
that's why i knew this was gonna work um

1372
00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:48,559
one of your guests is probably the most

1373
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,400
controversial person

1374
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:53,359
in ufology from years past and even up

1375
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,480
until today

1376
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:56,640
and i was really surprised to see you

1377
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:58,240
guys get them on

1378
00:52:01,270 --> 00:52:00,559
and chat with this guy and that is rick

1379
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,280
dodie

1380
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:04,000
the professional disinformation

1381
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,280
disinformation

1382
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:08,400
agent within ufology working for the us

1383
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,440
air force and

1384
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:12,000
osi and all these other things um i

1385
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:13,040
don't even want to list all his

1386
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:14,880
credentials because they scare me

1387
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,079
but um what was it like right what was

1388
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,559
that like guys

1389
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:22,559
he's a really great guy yeah he seems

1390
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:23,599
nice oh yeah

1391
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,480
that's the pizza point he's fun well

1392
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:28,079
yeah you know that's actually very true

1393
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:30,640
you know i think the point is um in

1394
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,280
terms of

1395
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,440
interviewing rick doty is whether you

1396
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:35,680
like it or not he has a story

1397
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,680
uh and sometimes it's off-putting

1398
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:41,760
because

1399
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:44,079
you know of his past and what he did

1400
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:45,119
like you were saying being a

1401
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:46,480
disinformation agent but

1402
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:49,359
um you got to just talk to him yourself

1403
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:50,160
you have to

1404
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,680
you know you can't really just hear what

1405
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:53,119
other people are saying you got to

1406
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,720
really kind of ask them

1407
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:56,800
why did you have to do that what did

1408
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:58,000
that entail

1409
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:00,319
what are you doing now you know what

1410
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,160
about this this and this we just ask

1411
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:03,599
you know we don't beat around the bush

1412
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:05,839
and so that was really why

1413
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,559
uh we continued to interview rick dodie

1414
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:10,000
we only really got a chance to talk to

1415
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,599
him a little bit about area 51

1416
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:15,040
and so we want to further our

1417
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,800
conversation our curiosity

1418
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,079
i understand what you're saying you know

1419
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,839
potentially giving a platform to maybe a

1420
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,599
disinformation person but

1421
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:24,079
i think the larger picture of what we do

1422
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:25,440
here is

1423
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:28,160
people have to pick and choose what they

1424
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:29,280
think is

1425
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:32,240
the most accurate rick dodie people

1426
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:33,599
could listen to him and go that guy's

1427
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:34,800
totally full of [\h__\h]

1428
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:37,119
and that's fine with me that's fine

1429
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:38,559
because

1430
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:42,400
you know ultimately um there's a story

1431
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,760
and he shares one with us

1432
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:45,359
and people will you know i don't know

1433
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:47,200
it's an interesting story it's a very

1434
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:48,640
interesting story i've never told

1435
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:49,920
anybody before

1436
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,960
and um it's

1437
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:55,200
it's interesting you know what i believe

1438
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,520
him bro and i believe him okay

1439
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,520
you guys will have to in my audience go

1440
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,359
watch or listen to that interview

1441
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:03,440
to hear that story i don't i obviously

1442
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:05,760
don't want to give it away here but um

1443
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:08,480
you're right he is a storyteller and uh

1444
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,280
that's what um worries a lot of people

1445
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,000
and also uh captures a lot of people's

1446
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,760
attention who might not know about what

1447
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:17,040
he's done in the past

1448
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,480
and again for anyone who doesn't know

1449
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:20,480
this gentleman um

1450
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:23,359
he's probably best known for a

1451
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,160
disinformation

1452
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,480
campaign he did back in the 80s with a

1453
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:27,839
gentleman named

1454
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:30,400
paul benowitz who was reporting ufos

1455
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:30,880
over

1456
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,240
kirtland air force base and uh went

1457
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,240
straight up to the base kind of like

1458
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,079
knocked on the proverbial front door

1459
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:40,720
and said yo there's ufos over your base

1460
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:41,839
and also like

1461
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,920
i'm getting these weird transmissions on

1462
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:45,520
my radios back home

1463
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:48,799
and uh i think it's an alien invasion

1464
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:51,280
and meanwhile the air force base is like

1465
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,160
holy [\h__\h]

1466
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:54,960
he like cracked our secret spy codes and

1467
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:55,520
whatnot

1468
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,400
and like frequencies this is a huge

1469
00:55:02,710 --> 00:54:59,839
national security breach

1470
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:02,720
and this dude is able to like hear this

1471
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:03,119
and

1472
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,960
up we gotta like do something

1473
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:08,400
and when he came to them and said it's

1474
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:11,119
aliens they ran with it they're like

1475
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,480
okay sure totally right it's aliens

1476
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,280
and they're into it they they fed him

1477
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:19,040
and rick dodie was the gentleman who

1478
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:20,000
they hired

1479
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,799
to go to this guy and keep it going keep

1480
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:24,480
telling him there's an alien invasion

1481
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,200
coming

1482
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:27,760
um they would break into his home him

1483
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:29,440
and these other spooks

1484
00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:31,359
and when he wasn't home and like move

1485
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,799
[\h__\h] in his apartment

1486
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:35,520
or his house and uh just so he would

1487
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,559
become paranoid

1488
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,119
or think he was crazy and they just kept

1489
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:40,720
doing this and driving it into this

1490
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:41,520
dude's brain

1491
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:43,280
that there was a pending alien invasion

1492
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:44,960
and the government knew about it

1493
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:47,760
and until he went mad and his his family

1494
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,000
had

1495
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,799
to put him in a mental institution and

1496
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,160
this is all proven

1497
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,400
and documented and rick dodi the

1498
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:55,760
gentleman you interviewed

1499
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,559
was the one who drove this guy crazy for

1500
00:56:01,109 --> 00:56:00,319
the yes you have to talk to him about it

1501
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,119
though

1502
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:03,599
crazy very interesting he has this side

1503
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:04,240
of the story

1504
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:07,359
right well it's interesting when you

1505
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:08,079
talk about

1506
00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:11,200
orders from the army yeah

1507
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,559
or what i don't actually remember

1508
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,920
exactly what branches i think was army

1509
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,599
right joe

1510
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:17,040
never touch my head not sure i don't i

1511
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:18,240
don't know everything about rick dodie

1512
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,960
but

1513
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,160
he explains that when you're under

1514
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:22,160
orders there's certain things you have

1515
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:22,960
to do

1516
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:25,440
and um i found that to be interesting

1517
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:26,000
because

1518
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:28,319
if you are how does that work ryan if

1519
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:29,599
you're like a

1520
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,760
soldier and you're told to do something

1521
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:32,640
what do you do

1522
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:35,200
you know you do it and i get that like

1523
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:35,680
and

1524
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:39,359
said i was doing my job

1525
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:42,000
and this is for national security and i

1526
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,559
was

1527
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,359
you know paid to do this and like of

1528
00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:46,960
course i'm going to do what i'm told to

1529
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:47,599
do

1530
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:49,599
and but frankly who's to say he's not

1531
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:51,839
still doing that job either

1532
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:55,200
exactly you know exactly yeah you know

1533
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,799
he's just got some interesting stories

1534
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:58,160
and things to say so that would be why

1535
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,280
we brought them on

1536
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:01,920
awesome i totally get it you know i

1537
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:02,400
think

1538
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:05,680
if there's such a a um

1539
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:08,240
a weird thing nowadays i think in the

1540
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,880
media

1541
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:10,400
and whether it's like youtube or

1542
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:12,720
mainstream media or anything in between

1543
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:15,520
of giving certain people platforms and

1544
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:16,079
uh

1545
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,640
this sort of cancel culture we live in

1546
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:20,079
is no

1547
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:21,440
if you're interviewing them or talking

1548
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:22,960
about them you're automatically giving

1549
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:23,520
them

1550
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:25,920
more exposure and to an extent i

1551
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:26,880
understand that

1552
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,720
but i also think it's important to

1553
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:32,720
understand why someone feels the way

1554
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:34,960
they feel or did the things they did

1555
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,079
and um let the listener

1556
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:41,040
so i understand why you guys did it it

1557
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,640
was very interesting

1558
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:45,119
and um look his story's still being

1559
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:46,000
written

1560
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:48,079
he's still in there i mean he's on

1561
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:50,000
facebook every two seconds like liking

1562
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:51,440
my posts and other

1563
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,880
ufo researchers interacting with us

1564
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:57,359
and it's weird it's weird knowing that

1565
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,160
like

1566
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,880
the poster child of disinformation

1567
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,680
within you

1568
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:03,839
guy from mirageman on the cover of

1569
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:04,799
mirageman

1570
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,319
yeah he's clicking like on like my posts

1571
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:10,160
and whatnot in your guy's pose it's

1572
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:10,799
weird

1573
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:14,079
um right

1574
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:17,040
i know i don't know where yeah where

1575
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,040
should we go from here guys

1576
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:21,599
well i think is there any questions show

1577
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,640
that you have for ryan

1578
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,240
because you know we got we got our duel

1579
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:26,319
show here uh you know two worlds

1580
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,359
colliding

1581
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,920
it's awesome um i think we're i think we

1582
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:31,359
drive well this is fine we definitely

1583
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:32,319
gotta do this again

1584
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:33,839
for sure oh my god i just wanna know

1585
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,240
what's for one of many yeah oh

1586
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:38,720
definitely we got to let people know

1587
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:39,839
about ryan's

1588
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:42,640
book which is getting i think not just

1589
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:44,960
national but worldwide attention

1590
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:48,400
on major news outlets

1591
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,440
and i think were you in australia or

1592
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,559
something

1593
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:54,880
i did uh i did an interview out of

1594
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:55,599
australia

1595
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,760
um about a month ago well first of all

1596
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,040
thank you thank you for those

1597
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:02,160
i know everything but uh yeah man

1598
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:04,079
i uh i came out with a second edition of

1599
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,680
my book which you can see

1600
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:08,160
right there that's um shameless

1601
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,799
promotion

1602
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:11,040
if i've ever seen no i would read it but

1603
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,400
i don't read books

1604
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:14,319
that's that's totally fair well hey i've

1605
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:15,760
got an exclusive for you

1606
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,230
if we have this book we have yours

1607
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:34,559
if we have that book oh we have your

1608
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:35,280
book

1609
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,119
we're we got to talk about that one we

1610
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:39,280
died and i waited in line for it too

1611
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:44,640
it's signed it's signed by the prick

1612
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,720
oh tell us how you really feel joe well

1613
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,920
we'll get into that guy

1614
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:50,160
um but no thank you for mentioning the

1615
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:52,160
book it's um it's the second edition

1616
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:54,960
yeah um i i always said like if i'm

1617
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,799
gonna buy a second edition of a book

1618
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:59,040
there needs to be a reason you know

1619
01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:00,720
unless it's college and you're buying

1620
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:01,839
like textbooks

1621
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:04,400
that you you're forced to buy um why

1622
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:05,760
would you want to read a second edition

1623
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:06,400
of a book

1624
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:09,359
so i went in dude and i wrote 80 000 new

1625
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:09,920
words

1626
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:12,960
it's a whole new book exhausting

1627
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,160
it really was and uh it's amazing it was

1628
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,400
really rewarding like i the book is all

1629
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:20,000
about people who've seen ufos

1630
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,760
experienced abductions

1631
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:23,760
their thoughts and theories on them and

1632
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:25,200
it's more about the people having the

1633
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,799
experiences than like

1634
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,119
how big was the craft when did it happen

1635
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,680
um i wanted to get this which is great

1636
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:33,680
yeah we're missing that yeah we need

1637
01:00:37,829 --> 01:00:35,599
both we need both because

1638
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:37,839
we're definitely all very focused on

1639
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,359
like what's going on and

1640
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,200
you know and you know the evidence and

1641
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:43,119
you know we want us vindication and

1642
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:43,920
that's what

1643
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:46,319
but there are people that are still

1644
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:47,599
dealing with this or have dealt with it

1645
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:48,960
they haven't even said anything

1646
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,280
or they haven't had the chance to get it

1647
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:53,119
out and now is a good time because now

1648
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:54,960
you know you you don't have to

1649
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:57,119
necessarily be a crazy person

1650
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,599
quote unquote you know to have a ufo

1651
01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:01,119
experience it's different

1652
01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:02,640
different time that's what's great about

1653
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,640
the book yeah thank you i appreciate

1654
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:06,480
that and i think you're right man like

1655
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:09,040
i think now is the time where the world

1656
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,559
is embracing ufos

1657
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:13,119
unlike ever before and that has a lot to

1658
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:14,559
do with these articles that came out in

1659
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:15,839
the new york times

1660
01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,720
and um cnn fox whatever covering the

1661
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:20,319
topic in a serious manner

1662
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,599
when they didn't before and um

1663
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,839
it's empowered people so i thought what

1664
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:27,359
better time to come out with a new

1665
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:30,240
version of the book with new ufo cases

1666
01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:32,000
um following up with everyone in the

1667
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:34,000
2016 edition of the book

1668
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:36,319
to see if their events have continued

1669
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:38,079
that's another thing we hear about ufo

1670
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:40,720
sightings um whether on the news or in

1671
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,160
person and then that's kind of it

1672
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:44,160
we never hear about it again but look

1673
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,280
did it continue

1674
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,359
did these people see other things has

1675
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:48,960
the story changed at all

1676
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:50,720
like i wanted to know so i followed up

1677
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,960
with everyone and then brought new cases

1678
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,480
forward and um

1679
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:56,640
including uh one of the dudes who was

1680
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:58,960
part of the navy tic tac ufo event

1681
01:02:02,789 --> 01:02:01,440
um he was the first person to track the

1682
01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:02,799
things on radar

1683
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:05,119
send out the intercept to the pilots and

1684
01:02:07,829 --> 01:02:07,039
ushered in this whole new era of ufo

1685
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:07,839
disclosure

1686
01:02:12,789 --> 01:02:10,960
when it comes to the military so um and

1687
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:12,799
look that affected his life in many ways

1688
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,200
so i wrote a whole new chapter on that

1689
01:02:19,510 --> 01:02:17,760
and it's awesome like i i can't tell you

1690
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:19,520
guys how rewarding it is to

1691
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:20,960
like you man i want to write a book

1692
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:23,359
someday but i don't have the focus

1693
01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,839
i get it i totally get it man i'm like

1694
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:27,039
i'm going to write a book

1695
01:02:34,230 --> 01:02:30,640
i'll read it we'll go chapter by chapter

1696
01:02:36,549 --> 01:02:34,240
when is it i'll i'll read it to you

1697
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:36,559
at uh bedtime how's that sound man

1698
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,240
remember popcorn would be like you read

1699
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:40,079
a paragraph popcorn joe

1700
01:02:43,589 --> 01:02:42,960
do you remember popcorn remember that

1701
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,599
that was when

1702
01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:45,599
the class oh yeah remember you had to go

1703
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:47,520
through the class and

1704
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:49,520
and then you would say popcorn and then

1705
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,640
you would call on your friend in the

1706
01:02:56,470 --> 01:02:52,480
class and then it was their turn to read

1707
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:56,480
that's oh oh that sounds cool nice

1708
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:00,160
and ryan went down the slide head first

1709
01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,240
popcorn joe and then he can you know

1710
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:04,400
what i mean yeah and it's a [\h__\h] face

1711
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:07,280
and a [\h__\h] face of the [\h__\h] face in it

1712
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,440
i hope you don't mind explicit word

1713
01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:10,720
explicitly uh

1714
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:12,880
no we are no stranger to that on

1715
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:14,880
summaries i hope you don't mind

1716
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:22,230
i know i just got um one of my videos on

1717
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:24,160
youtube um restricted

1718
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:26,160
age restricted and i'm still trying to

1719
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:27,200
figure out why

1720
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:28,960
i don't know if it was like a fluke or

1721
01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:30,559
what but i'm like going through i'm like

1722
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:34,240
what the hell is so profane or

1723
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,400
you needed to be censored in this but

1724
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:38,400
we're seeing they're like cracking down

1725
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,640
i know i know i really are i'm afraid

1726
01:03:43,829 --> 01:03:42,000
that the ufo

1727
01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:43,839
crack or sorry the conspiracy crackdown

1728
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:45,200
i don't think that you reach into our

1729
01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:46,480
community where we're really trying to

1730
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:47,920
get real information out

1731
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:51,119
yeah you know all of a sudden

1732
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:52,640
you never know they could be like any

1733
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:55,039
conspiracy at all who knows

1734
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:56,559
where is this going to lead to you know

1735
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:58,799
yeah it's hard it's hard i know like the

1736
01:04:02,470 --> 01:04:00,559
whole q anon thing is being

1737
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:02,480
censored on all social media platforms

1738
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:03,680
right now which

1739
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:06,400
you know i struggle with censorship for

1740
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:06,960
sure

1741
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,760
but if it's dangerous and it's affecting

1742
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:11,599
the real world in bad ways like

1743
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,599
something like shooting up a pizza shop

1744
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:15,520
doing pizzagate or like

1745
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,799
drinking the coronavirus those are real

1746
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:20,559
that's a great one it's a tremendous one

1747
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,000
i just want to let you know

1748
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:23,760
that i was all part of that drink the

1749
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:26,400
bleach you'll be wonderful

1750
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:29,200
holy [\h__\h] that is spot odd i can't

1751
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:30,079
believe that but

1752
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,440
you're right tell me about it correct

1753
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:33,119
like when is it gonna bleed over into

1754
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:33,920
ufology

1755
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:36,799
and um the conspiracies that we cover i

1756
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:37,839
i

1757
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:40,480
fear that maybe we won't see as much ufo

1758
01:04:42,870 --> 01:04:41,200
content

1759
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:42,880
on these platforms any longer just have

1760
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:45,039
to be cautious i guess of keywords and

1761
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,680
descriptions be careful you know yeah

1762
01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:49,359
that's slippery

1763
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:52,400
it is i do know though um like

1764
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,480
we've had a blast with you in this

1765
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:58,319
interview it's not even an interview

1766
01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,680
it's like a chat

1767
01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:02,319
yeah i was chatting yeah this is so

1768
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:02,799
great

1769
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:04,400
i think this is how most people just

1770
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:05,839
talk about ufos

1771
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:08,720
yeah so tell me about your phd and you

1772
01:05:11,589 --> 01:05:09,680
know

1773
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:11,599
we don't have any phds in portugal [\h__\h]

1774
01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:13,520
that [\h__\h] but

1775
01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:15,920
i think we are gonna have to wrap up for

1776
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:17,039
ari because um

1777
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:19,920
my airpods are dying oh my god that's

1778
01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:20,880
totally fine

1779
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,240
we are going to have plenty more

1780
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:24,960
opportunities to do this oh yeah dude

1781
01:05:28,710 --> 01:05:26,880
we only scratched the surface today at

1782
01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:28,720
least on my end and i know

1783
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:30,799
we could do this for hours but no this

1784
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:31,920
has been awesome

1785
01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:34,319
um so i guess for my audience before you

1786
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:35,200
guys go

1787
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:37,599
um where can we find you and everything

1788
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:39,359
you're up to and what comes next for the

1789
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:41,680
ufo bros

1790
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:44,720
well our website real ufobros.com

1791
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:47,119
uh we're on all things social media at

1792
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,240
real ufo bros

1793
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:51,359
so it's just the same handle um and

1794
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:54,640
on uh our our podcast is called

1795
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,520
probecast so you just got to search in

1796
01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:59,359
ufo bros probecast

1797
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:02,000
and um you know it's slightly you know a

1798
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:02,720
different

1799
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:05,680
approach as ryan said earlier um but

1800
01:06:08,549 --> 01:06:06,640
most people enjoy

1801
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:08,559
i think our show we get download so

1802
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:10,640
check it out and for people that

1803
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:12,720
are listening because we've got this

1804
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:14,880
dual this awesome dual thing going on

1805
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:17,280
ryan tell our listeners where they can

1806
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,640
find out about you

1807
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:20,559
absolutely everything i do is that

1808
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:22,720
somewhere in the skies dot com

1809
01:06:26,230 --> 01:06:25,599
uh the books on amazon paperback ebook

1810
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:26,240
soon to be

1811
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:28,880
an audio book as well and like i said

1812
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,359
yeah

1813
01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:31,119
look for me on mysteriestacoded look for

1814
01:06:35,270 --> 01:06:32,960
these guys on the travel channel

1815
01:06:36,549 --> 01:06:35,280
and um guys this has been so much fun on

1816
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:36,559
my end thank you

1817
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:39,119
i'm so happy we finally made it happen

1818
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:40,480
and uh

1819
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:43,520
it's only just begun right saucy yes

1820
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:46,480
buddy awesome take care guys keep